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Wendy1969 wrote: 25 Nov 2023, 13:03 I like the idea of online teaching as well as online learning.In fact I still constantly look up various English words on the internet.
But, I think it, like onsite teaching, should only be considered for more mature students who genuinely enjoy learning English language or for students have real interest in improving their English language skills. It would only be a waste of time if one has to put so much effort to teach and only to find out that, e.g. they have intentions to replace our English language with their alien Chinese language in the future.
Chinese is becoming more popular in the East, not surprisingly considering its proximity. Yet, having said that English is still the business language of the world and is a necessity. I taught in China for several years and it’s a fantastic place. Nothing like it’s portrayed as in the western media.

Teaching online is a scam and you won’t make any reasonable amount of money from it. The company will take most of the profit and you will do the work. Not many in a developing country can afford the cost of private (online) education.
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John V55 wrote: 04 Dec 2023, 09:50
Wendy1969 wrote: 25 Nov 2023, 13:03 I like the idea of online teaching as well as online learning.In fact I still constantly look up various English words on the internet.
But, I think it, like onsite teaching, should only be considered for more mature students who genuinely enjoy learning English language or for students have real interest in improving their English language skills. It would only be a waste of time if one has to put so much effort to teach and only to find out that, e.g. they have intentions to replace our English language with their alien Chinese language in the future.
Chinese is becoming more popular in the East, not surprisingly considering its proximity. Yet, having said that English is still the business language of the world and is a necessity. I taught in China for several years and it’s a fantastic place. Nothing like it’s portrayed as in the western media.

Teaching online is a scam and you won’t make any reasonable amount of money from it. The company will take most of the profit and you will do the work. Not many in a developing country can afford the cost of private (online) education.
Chinese is deviously pushing their rude culture/ language to us even though English is much more important and much more useful in our everyday life. I think they should not push their Chinese language/culture to us who don’t like it.

Many of them exploited the popularity of English language solely for financial gain. Many of them have little regard for high standards. Anyway, they think their Chinese language/culture is ‘superior’ even though it is not.
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There is a lot of truth about the many unpleasant aspects of their often harsh Chinese culture.
Perhaps, you find it fantastic because you did not end up as their victim.
I still prefer the much more civilised Western culture that is not infected by Chinese/Asian culture.
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Wendy1969 wrote: 04 Dec 2023, 10:38 There is a lot of truth about the many unpleasant aspects of their often harsh Chinese culture.
Perhaps, you find it fantastic because you did not end up as their victim.
I still prefer the much more civilised Western culture that is not infected by Chinese/Asian culture.
Ever society has its drawbacks. I didn’t end up as a victim because I played by the rules and I think the vast majority that come unstuck didn’t. I also think you’ll find that under multiculturalism there isn’t much left of western culture. I suppose it comes down to whether you prefer a traditional society such as Asia, or the chaos of the west. I certainly wouldn’t want to teach in a British school.
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John V55 wrote: 31 Dec 2023, 17:32
Wendy1969 wrote: 04 Dec 2023, 10:38 There is a lot of truth about the many unpleasant aspects of their often harsh Chinese culture.
Perhaps, you find it fantastic because you did not end up as their victim.
I still prefer the much more civilised Western culture that is not infected by Chinese/Asian culture.
Ever society has its drawbacks. I didn’t end up as a victim because I played by the rules and I think the vast majority that come unstuck didn’t. I also think you’ll find that under multiculturalism there isn’t much left of western culture. I suppose it comes down to whether you prefer a traditional society such as Asia, or the chaos of the west. I certainly wouldn’t want to teach in a British school.
I have to disagree with you. Chinese/Asian culture in reality can often be very deceptive and often unfair even to the most hardworking teacher with lots of potential like myself. Many of the Chinese (principals/students) that I encountered were very Chinese and they were extremely chaotic, abusive, intimidating, oppressive… It is certainly not a society that I want to be part of if given a choice.
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Wendy1969 wrote: 31 Dec 2023, 21:27
John V55 wrote: 31 Dec 2023, 17:32
Wendy1969 wrote: 04 Dec 2023, 10:38 There is a lot of truth about the many unpleasant aspects of their often harsh Chinese culture.
Perhaps, you find it fantastic because you did not end up as their victim.
I still prefer the much more civilised Western culture that is not infected by Chinese/Asian culture.
Ever society has its drawbacks. I didn’t end up as a victim because I played by the rules and I think the vast majority that come unstuck didn’t. I also think you’ll find that under multiculturalism there isn’t much left of western culture. I suppose it comes down to whether you prefer a traditional society such as Asia, or the chaos of the west. I certainly wouldn’t want to teach in a British school.
I have to disagree with you. Chinese/Asian culture in reality can often be very deceptive and often unfair even to the most hardworking teacher with lots of potential like myself. Many of the Chinese (principals/students) that I encountered were very Chinese and they were extremely chaotic, abusive, intimidating, oppressive… It is certainly not a society that I want to be part of if given a choice.
Also, in addition, Asian/Chinese societies very often tend to show their nasty colours to us who may be disadvantaged in one way or another. I was struggling in their hostile infested environment to earn pittance and their exploitive, horrible Chinese/Asian culture/society made it worse for me in every way. It is extremely difficult to start a new independent life in a place dominated or infested by multiculturalism(eg alien culture such as their chinese tendencies of favouring their own) if one is disadvantaged.

That is another reason why I still prefer the many decent aspects of our Western culture.
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Wendy1969 wrote: 31 Dec 2023, 22:09
Wendy1969 wrote: 31 Dec 2023, 21:27
John V55 wrote: 31 Dec 2023, 17:32
Ever society has its drawbacks. I didn’t end up as a victim because I played by the rules and I think the vast majority that come unstuck didn’t. I also think you’ll find that under multiculturalism there isn’t much left of western culture. I suppose it comes down to whether you prefer a traditional society such as Asia, or the chaos of the west. I certainly wouldn’t want to teach in a British school.
I have to disagree with you. Chinese/Asian culture in reality can often be very deceptive and often unfair even to the most hardworking teacher with lots of potential like myself. Many of the Chinese (principals/students) that I encountered were very Chinese and they were extremely chaotic, abusive, intimidating, oppressive… It is certainly not a society that I want to be part of if given a choice.
Also, in addition, Asian/Chinese societies very often tend to show their nasty colours to us who may be disadvantaged in one way or another. I was struggling in their hostile infested environment to earn pittance and their exploitive, horrible Chinese/Asian culture/society made it worse for me in every way. It is extremely difficult to start a new independent life in a place dominated or infested by multiculturalism(eg alien culture such as their chinese tendencies of favouring their own) if one is disadvantaged.

That is another reason why I still prefer the many decent aspects of our Western culture.
Too many parts of Asia together with their often oppressive, harsh, brutal culture is often even much more chaotic and much more ugly than our much more civilised Western culture that tend to give a fair go to anyone. That is another reason why I don’t like Asia and their often deceptive Asian/Chinese culture.
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By the way, New Year Greetings to John VSS and everyone here who may be browsing this forum.
I hope the year 2024 will be a better year for everyone.
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Wendy1969 wrote: 01 Jan 2024, 08:36 By the way, New Year Greetings to John VSS and everyone here who may be browsing this forum.
I hope the year 2024 will be a better year for everyone.
And a Happy New Year to you also. :)
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Thanks for the detailed perspective on online teaching. It definitely seems like the reality isn't as rosy as some of the marketing makes it out to be. It's good that you're pushing back on overly optimistic portrayals to help manage expectations. Working abroad still seems like a better option if someone truly wants to make a career out of teaching. Thanks for the food for thought - hope you have a great start to the new year!
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eggshell wrote: 05 Jan 2024, 09:47 Thanks for the detailed perspective on online teaching. It definitely seems like the reality isn't as rosy as some of the marketing makes it out to be. It's good that you're pushing back on overly optimistic portrayals to help manage expectations. Working abroad still seems like a better option if someone truly wants to make a career out of teaching. Thanks for the food for thought - hope you have a great start to the new year!
I do have my own reservation for online teaching and I do think it may be only suitable for learners/teachers who live are living remotely. Besides, one also needs a reliable computer/internet connection. Otherwise, face to face learning/teaching tend to be a better option.
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