Non-native degree Teachers vs non-degree Teachers

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Non-native degree Teachers vs non-degree Teachers

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I wish to highlight the many often irrational demand by some countries in Asia who insist on teachers having degrees even though the quality of their degrees and their proficiency in English is noted to be highly questionable. Some non-native teachers with degrees are known to have too many mistakes in their spoken and written English despite they having some sort of degree.

I think the priority is to improve the standard of spoken and written English and improve the standard of TEFL rather than require teachers to have a degree.
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Typically in Asian countries, and for teaching English in language schools (not universities), the degree requirement is a government requirement for getting a work permit. It is often not a requirement of the employer and has little to do with ability to teach English. Indeed, the degree can often be in any subject.
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Joe wrote: 22 Mar 2024, 08:19 Typically in Asian countries, and for teaching English in language schools (not universities), the degree requirement is a government requirement for getting a work permit. It is often not a requirement of the employer and has little to do with ability to teach English. Indeed, the degree can often be in any subject.
It should be up to the schools to require a degree, diploma or a certificate in teaching the various levels of English language. I noted some private schools in Asia do not see TEFL certification as a requirement to teach English. A high quality TEFL certification with a passion for English language - should be made a requirement to teach English to non-native students in Asia.
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The quality of a teacher's English and their training should definitely be prioritized over just having any degree. I completely agree that schools should focus on TEFL certification and language proficiency over arbitrary degree requirements. A passion for teaching English and proper teaching skills can be so important for students. Hopefully more schools will follow the approach of recognizing certifications rather than degrees alone.
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Greetings, esteemed educators from the far reaches of Bongo Bongoland and beyond!

Ah, the perplexing conundrum of degree requirements in certain Asian countries – a topic as vexing as it is vital, ripe for discussion and contemplation. Fear not, dear colleagues, for I shall be your guide through this linguistic labyrinth, armed with a quiver full of insights and a sprinkle of whimsy.

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Armed with these fantastical suggestions and a sprinkle of whimsical wisdom, I have no doubt you'll challenge the entrenched norms of ESL credentialing with grace and innovation. May your pedagogical endeavors be filled with linguistic liberation, educational progress, and, dare I say, a hint of revolutionary fervor!

Fair winds and linguistic enlightenment, noble educators, and may the educational gods smile upon your endeavors!
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