New Sailing ESL China Job Agents? Scam or Legit?

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Re: New Sailing ESL China Job Agents? Scam or Legit?

Unread post by Norman » 16 Nov 2016, 06:35

I suggest you stick with the safe jobs posted here at TEFLNET. "New Sailing" operates as different companies and I found the below at Scam.com on their "China Liars List". (Link: https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?704 ... ost1940632)

This is a verbatim cut and paste, not my opinion;



"Beware! - New Sailing is also Sail Away (Beijing) - Both are Black ESL Recruiter Scams

This is a Chinese-owned operation as you can see from their website. Apparently they started out with a fairly decent reputation in 2010 with job placements in Shandong, but over the years have followed the easy but illegal path to riches - recruiting teachers with disinformation about legal visa requirements. Some of their "independent agents" even tell students where to buy fake university degrees and it is "okay to work your first 90 days in China on a tourist or business visa". In reality that is illegal and exactly why 229 foreign teachers recently got themselves arrested in China when the PSB (Public Security Bureau) caught up with them.


Owner Emily Zhang

To be clear, the company only advertises under "New Sailing" and not their web site name of Sail ESL. According to SAIC in Beijing, there is no business license issued in either name. Likewaise SAFEA claims they are not known to them nor legally allowed to recruit any foreign employees for China. The Beijing and Haidian Tax Bureaus also have not record of this company.

We sent one of our UC teachers to apply for a job with them and although they did make quite a few placements with legitimate universities with qualified teachers, they continue to promote illegal placements with numeorius black schools with teachers who have no z visas nor university degrees. Those teachers who utilize their placement service stand a 50% chance or being arrested and deported. http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.co ... ed-in.html

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key people at sail away esl

Emily Zhang is the owner of Sail Away ESL. After receiving a Masters in Foreign Education from Hebei University, she moved to Beijing and started Sail Away to help foreigners broaden their horizons while adding to the local education system.

Email: zhanglmatsailesl
Skype: batw-ice
Phone: +86 1569 9881627
Peter Newell is the cultural transition consultant at Sail Away. After spending a year teaching English in China, he joined Sail Away in September 2012. He provides new teachers with teacher training and cultural education to make sure our teachers are well prepared before they reach their schools.


Email: newellp88atsailesl
Skype: peter.newell22
Phone: +86 1314 6808 521
Sophia is the head recruiter at Sail Away. After graduating university she spent some time working in the HR departments at several multinational companies. We are glad to have her, and her experience, as part of the team.

Email: englishjobs00at163
Skype: sophiatian3
Phone: +86 187 3442 1756"

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Re: New Sailing ESL China Job Agents? Scam or Legit?

Unread post by Volunteer » 18 Nov 2016, 13:59

Well according to Scam.com and EslWatch this New Sailing is a scam agency and they also use the name SAIL ESL. They are rated "AVOID" by the CTA and also blacklisted under the following names NEW SAIL ESL, NEW SAILING, and SAIL ESL by the CFTU. It looklike they recruited the foreigner Peter Newell to front for them. Strangely, they do not even attempt to defend themselves against any of the accusations. I suppose they made plenty of money in the 4 years they went undetected by changing their names and using blind recruitment ads. https://eslwatch.info/eslwatch-forum/ch ... l-esl.html

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