The truth behind scam links

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John V55
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Re: The truth behind scam links

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No one is right about everything Blue Moon, but fortunately I’m right about what I know. Then there are spammers and you disappoint me. Only five links to anonymous webpages in one post? You’re slipping. You need spam sites to tell you to check employment reviews before you sign on the dotted line. Really? And you think everyone else is at the same gullible level? But you’re not are you, you know exactly what you’re doing.

Yes, I taught in Inner Mongolia for the same school for years. No arrests, no deportations and don’t need to link out to spam pages. No one will ever know who you are, but I know who you’re spamming for and that’s the difference between us. I don’t respect spammers and the reason I pop up now and then is to warn people of the scams they’re being led into with illegal unions, spam sites and greed. Google does pick my longer threads up (Just doing one now) and if I can keep just one person away from where you’re leading them I’ll be happy.

Nowhere have I ever said you can’t spam, it’s not my decision, but if it were I’d ban you, period; and equally the other half a dozen spammers here. So keep spamming, but I hope you don’t mind me having a say? If I come across as knowing more than you about China TEFL, it’s probably because having been there, I do. A collection of anonymous posters all linking out to the same anonymous spam sites and endorsing an illegal 'Union' says it all really. :)
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Re: The truth behind scam links

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I'm sorry John but you have been outed already, and we all know what you do here on the forum. Its okay if you fool others because you are an old guy who needs to earn a living too. But it would be a lot better if you just tell people you are looking for teachers to work in Mongolia and just show them the photos from April to September and you will find a few who are not focused on money but maybe on just having an adventure. From what I see Mongolia has a lot of natural beauty and is even promoted as a ECO vacation spot. But this covert recruiting method of yours will just spook people john. Haven't you seen all the articles how expats are getting ripped off by identity thieves by online recruiters? https://ChinaScamWatch.wordpress.com

And here's 4 ways to avoid Identity Theft in your Job Hunt: https://www.recruiter.com/i/4-tips-for- ... -job-hunt/

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Re: The truth behind scam links

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Careful with the personal attacks Cricket. Unless you can prove I’m a recruiter it’s best not to go down that path. I’m able to say what I do because I’m not a recruiter and in all the years I’ve been on this forum I challenge you to find one post or link that I’ve tried to recruit with. I am good at the written word though and if you carry on I’ll give the organization you’re spamming for the biggest Internet hiding they’ve ever had. Drop it!
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Re: The truth behind scam links

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Look here John. You need to come down of your almighty throne and admit you are not my master, my father, nor my boss, and I am not obligated to agree with you. Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. If you have the balls to make false allegations about me, and try to guess guess what I am doing here and why, then I certainly have the same right to express my own suspicions about you, which I did. We are all equally anonymous on this forum and to be frank that photo you posted may or may not really be you. My opinions are just as worthy as yours and those of others, yet you keep talking down to people as if you are the Lord Almighty with some great vision over the TEFL world, even though you admitted to everyone here you never worked in a single Tier 1 city nor any international school in China. Working in a single public school in Mongolia does not make you an expert about China TEFL. At best you were an observer. Others that have commented here actually worked years in Beijing, Shanghai, Hangzhou Shenzhen, etc. They know what they earned and how they were exploited. But still you think you know better - about everything. Stick to what you know dude.

We have no clue who you really are and why you hang out on this forum 24 hours a day, but from my experience at eslcafe and other TEFL forums, there is always one or two guys with high post counts which are undercover TEFL recruiters who play the role of some Great TEFL Master who knows everything about everything. https://www.eslbase.com/forum/viewtopic ... fl-forums/

You seem to assume some authority to dictate your beliefs to be facts that the rest of us must accept as true, when you have been proven wrong by multiple sources including Forbes magazine and several newspaper articles and official statistics, but you still claim you are right and everyone else is "misinformed". I am talking about your outdated comments about top and average salaries in China. https://tefl.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f ... oe fits...

So when you keep pushing people to work in public schools in Mongolia, I have to believe you are recruiting for your public school friends in Mongolia, and that is your business to do so. But your "Holier Than Thou" crap does not fly with me. If the shoe fits...
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Re: The truth behind scam links

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I was neutral on this subject until last night. I was about to invest $3,999 "in my future career with a fortune 500 company" which has the most professional brochure I have ever seen in China and a glitzy website to match, complete with a dozen video "testimonials" and even more wonderful "reviews". I then saw the warning link here on tefl.net about Laowai Career Center which was a wake up call that got my partner and I digging online. Look what we found - https://www.reddit.com/r/TEFLScams/comm ... g_various/ So hell yeah, I am definitely in favor of expats using scam links to warn each other. If not for user Murphy here on TEFL.net I would have definitely been swindled out of $3,999.
I suggest every TEFL teacher take a visit to https://reddit.com/r/TEFLscams BEFORE they send off their resumes.
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Re: The truth behind scam links

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Actually, I have an idea... How about rather than putting more than 1-3 links in a post, we just copy and paste what is in the scam link inside our post here and we only cite the source link without the https:// prefix so it is not an active link? That way we can document an example without leaving tefl.net. If the reader doubts something that is posted they can save the reference link and check it out when they finish up at tefl.net. But I think the links give more credibility especially if we are exposing some fraud. Anyway, just my idea. No need to argue about stupid shit.
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Re: The truth behind scam links

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Thank you -I agree. The OP is always fixated on money and the amount of salaries. It doesn't matter if you make a little or a lot because the scammers, skimmers, and identity thieves are looking to grabs as much of our income as they can. As teacher colleagues we should be helping to protect one another by posting a warning whenever we can.
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Re: The truth behind scam links

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John V 55 is correct. As I said before on this site the whole CTFU thing and all those related sites are run by the same guy using fake identities to promote his BS and hide behind his fake identities. It's deception. I don't know if people actually believe what he writes, but it's fake news.

He posts content on one site under one username then goes elsewhere to link to it.

Astroturfing.

He even comments on his own stuff under other usernames so it might fool some, but if you look close all those comments you will see are similar.

He's attacked me on multiple sites (including this one) and made up lies. That's what he does. He's commented on this thread already: vagabond, cricket, atlas - I'd bet big bucks are all the same person.

Surprised some sites even allow him and think it's a little sad, but perhaps it's "new" content for them and more advertising revenue despite the fact it's fake.

Always check the source and who wrote it. I remember KRS-ONE saying once that "if you don't know who wrote it then you don't know what you read."
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Re: The truth behind scam links

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E-insider wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 17:43 John V 55 is correct...
I'm confused. Does E-insider stand for ESLinsider?

If so, you may want to check your spelling on your About page where you use seems as a noun whereas you "seem" to mean seams.
I hate the TEFL course industry. And if you start reading through the blog you'll see that sentiment seep through the seems in some posts.
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Re: The truth behind scam links

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Yes apparently so according to other comments made at other threads about ESLinsider here at TEFL net and at https://reddit.com/r/TEFLscams and also AbroadReviews.com and https://ChinaScamPatrol.wordpress.com. Personally, I take his comments with a grain of salt.
Watch your step in China. There is a pile of shit waiting for your foot around every corner that only laowai seem to step in. See https://reddit.com/r/workabroadfraud.
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