Discussion about courses, qualifications etc
I'm sorry you (appear to) have had a negative experience - perhaps a short period of quiet reflection would help you to find your way past this and consider whether you contributed to it in any way, and how best to avoid such negativity in the future.
Whether "we" like it or not, and whether willing to admit it or not, EU Countries ask for EU Passports for a variety of reasons, chief among them is that they do not have to worry about visas/work permit issues etc. But the real elephant in the room (and no one wants to openly address or acknowledge) remains the fact that far too many people from country ___ (you chose) see "TEFL" as nothing more than a way to get "around" legal immigration requirement and enter the EU (or any other country, and remain there, illegally. The other issue is the "Native Speaker" thing which again, no one will admit, but is driven by the fact that far too many "Native Speakers" are in fact NOT, (The Polish have frequently been burned by this... but people still get upset with their "insistence" on NATIVE SPEAKERS) but again see it as a way around legal immigration. I Know no one wants to hear or acknowledge but that's the way it is
I am also from South Africa and have just completed my L5 and was issued a certificate so cannot understand why you did not receive one. Firstly did you do your homework regarding accredited TEFL companies? Secondly I take it that English is not your native tongue as I am sorry to say I found so many grammatical errors, spelling mistakes and quite a few homophones in your post. I suggest you brush up on your skills and take some courses with accredited companies. I did my L5 with Premier TEFL, all courses are fully accredited and they are also an approved training centre with TQUK (Training Qualifications UK), an Ofqual-regulated Awarding Organisation. You can also take courses for free with TeachingEnglish | British Council | BBC www.teachingenglish.org.uk. Please note that I am using the British version of spelling as opposed to the American way of spelling - just in case someone else thinks that I cannot spell correctly either:) Good luck and I hope that we both succeed in acquiring a job as an online English tutor. I know I have some qualities of being a good teacher as I have passion, patience, empathy, good skills in listening and communication and a lifelong love of learning.
I just came across this rather interesting post about CELTA. I guess I just have to add in a few more negative experience of mine during my enquiries with a college in Australia. I was initially very keen on taking the CELTA course with the college in Australia. In fact, I was very keen on applying for it even though I have already acquired other TEFL related certs. But, the person who attended to my face to face enquiries was very discouraging even before I send in my application. She tried to imply that I was not good enough and she went on to push to enquire with another hostile college. I found the whole experience even before I submit my application was unnecessarily hostile and extremely disappointing and discouraging. Perhaps, she did not like it when I tried to talk about one of my past traumatic experience teaching with a disrespectful, rude and disinterested Chinese students, Anyway, after the encounter with her hostile, discouraging and unwelcoming reception upon meeting her, I unsurprisingly, ended up not applying for the CELTA course.tbknown wrote: ↑08 Sep 2012, 00:19 Again, the point of the post is not about my personal experience. That is what you want to focus on.
I posted an accurate depiction of what the course is and isn't for those that might be thinking about spending the money. There is no edge that CELTA graduates possess, other than the prestige of the name. It is an overly-hyped money maker.
Any other TEFL course would be just as adequate. Because at the end of the day, like you pointed out, the schools use their own textbooks and that only requires common sense to organize around a textbook. The rest of becoming a teacher is garnering experience overtime, not in four weeks of participating in the CELTA circus.
She certainly gave a bad impression for CELTA as well as for Australia.
I also no longer think highly of CELTA.
I agree with you - i.e. other good quality TEFL course would be more than adequate as long as the teacher has passed a good quality TEFL related course, enjoy teaching English, has passion for English language, has lots of good teaching materials/textbooks, has many professional teaching practices with keen students, professional learning environment, good learning centre/resources……
Glad to come across this well written post which explains very rationally as to why one don’t really need a CELTA in order to be a good English teacher to beginner or lower intermediate students who are only learning English as their second (or even third or fourth) language.John V55 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 09:43 I’ve never done a CELTA because there was no need for it and no one has ever asked if I have. A TEFL course yes and that is required in many placements because it shows that you know the basics of being able to stand up in front of an audience and not go to pieces.
People often argue over the merits of different qualifications and complex grammar, but the reality is that you’re often teaching students who have only a basic understanding of English and if you’re capable of presenting an engaging half decent lesson plan, that’s often all that’s required.
A degree, TEFL course and some experience is all that’s required. The experience will improve over time. Outside the West few have heard of Cambridge and CELTAs and they’re really of interest only to us, not the Director of a school 6K miles away. It’s in the interests of companies selling these courses to make you think they’re a necessary requirement, but they’re not.
As long as the English teacher have a very good command of English language, have gone through a high quality TEFL related course plus willing to go the extra miles to do some research to ensure accuracy and delivery of high quality lessons before they teach, it will be good enough.
I am glad I did not take the CELTA since one CELTA trainer (for reasons best known to herself) inappropriately assumed that I was not good enough for CELTA even though I provided evidence of of having acquired other two high quality TEFL related certs which I had worked very hard to achieve.
Thank you for your kind advice though I am presently not sure about getting back to teaching English (to young learners) at this point in my life.
Anyway, I will keep looking for opportunities to advance myself further in my English language skills.
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I kind of agree with you though I am presently thinking of getting back to caregiving/nursing roles soonJohn V55 wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023, 17:17
However, I am still keen to work on achieving near native level in my English language skills even if I don’t get to practise/teach in a more professional environment.
I hope more people will choose to learn English language as a first language since that would lead to a more professional environment for anyone who is really keen on teaching or learning English language.