Alex Case wrote:Yes, I know that's your line Pete. It may just be coincidence, but that is also the line of other online providers such as i to i.
I think you'll find it's the line of many people, not just providers and certainly not just online providers. Likewise it's the line of CELTA providers that their intake don't need to have experience!
Alex Case wrote:All my points above were debunking exactly that myth- with the CELTA, the sooner the better.
Reading through your post again, Alex, I think I'm right in saying that the only arguments you have for why CELTA doesn't require experience beforehand
a) the teacher may have picked up some bad habits
b) the course is designed for new teachers
Am I correct in that? (The other points you made were about the necessity of CELTA for work at better schools in higher positions which, in general, I agree with.)
As for the "bad habits" argument, yes some teachers (obviously not all) will have picked up bad habits prior to taking the course. Any course in fact and not just CELTA. But it's not a difficult process to unlearn bad habits or replace them with good habits.
And as for CELTA being designed for new teachers, that may be the case but I saw teachers without experience struggling a great deal more with CELTA (and in some cases dropping out) than those with experience. Obviously a small sample so a good break down of statistics (drop-out rate, previous experience, pass levels and so on) would be very interesting. Do you know if Cambridge even collect this data? (I know we do and keep very careful analysis of who takes our course, their background and final grades, etc so I'd be surprised if Cambridge don't.)