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		<title>By: Alex Case</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-2/#comment-3785</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last 10 comments, from both sides, have been mainly insults and have added zero information, therefore comments are blocked. You have all, including Bruce, therefore lost one of the last places that had the patience to publish your comments. I hope everyone is equally unhappy with that result. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last 10 comments, from both sides, have been mainly insults and have added zero information, therefore comments are blocked. You have all, including Bruce, therefore lost one of the last places that had the patience to publish your comments. I hope everyone is equally unhappy with that result. </p>
<p>Please do not move the discussion onto other posts, or your comments will be marked as spam.</p>
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		<title>By: Teflista</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3778</link>
		<dc:creator>Teflista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce wrote:
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I called Dr. Kay to ask about Tony’s credentials myself. [Tony is the lead TEFL trainer at CMU].  He [now] has a diploma. Or the word of the PhD who oversees the program is not good enough for you? Perhaps he is under qualified? LOL

If he does not have a PhD I will offer full refunds to every person who has graduated from the TI/CMU program.

…at the request of the British Council, their International Studies department oversees our Board of Academic Advisors and their monthly moderation of our courses…

TEFL International is validated by CMU …if you want the CMU validation letter I can scan it…


Now Bruce says:
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Matt Kay–he does not have anything to do with running the TESOL course so if he dropped out of school in the third grade it would have nothing to do with the TESOL course and I would have no reason to tell trainees. Nor would they care.





Sorry, Bruce, but you’ve been caught with your pants down and have now made a complete fool of yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce wrote:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
I called Dr. Kay to ask about Tony’s credentials myself. [Tony is the lead TEFL trainer at CMU].  He [now] has a diploma. Or the word of the PhD who oversees the program is not good enough for you? Perhaps he is under qualified? LOL</p>
<p>If he does not have a PhD I will offer full refunds to every person who has graduated from the TI/CMU program.</p>
<p>…at the request of the British Council, their International Studies department oversees our Board of Academic Advisors and their monthly moderation of our courses…</p>
<p>TEFL International is validated by CMU …if you want the CMU validation letter I can scan it…</p>
<p>Now Bruce says:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Matt Kay–he does not have anything to do with running the TESOL course so if he dropped out of school in the third grade it would have nothing to do with the TESOL course and I would have no reason to tell trainees. Nor would they care.</p>
<p>Sorry, Bruce, but you’ve been caught with your pants down and have now made a complete fool of yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3776</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[EDITED]

Matt Kay--he does not have anything to do with running the TESOL course so if he dropped out of school in the third grade it would have nothing to do with the TESOL course and I would have no reason to tell trainees.  Nor would they care.

[EDITED- this thread is not about TW, if it ever does come up again you can all go and comment there]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[EDITED]</p>
<p>Matt Kay&#8211;he does not have anything to do with running the TESOL course so if he dropped out of school in the third grade it would have nothing to do with the TESOL course and I would have no reason to tell trainees.  Nor would they care.</p>
<p>[EDITED- this thread is not about TW, if it ever does come up again you can all go and comment there]</p>
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		<title>By: TEFLWatch</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3755</link>
		<dc:creator>TEFLWatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of this started on TW. For those of you curious teflwatch.com is up and going with the forum. Since so much debate is now he said, she said, I think it might be a good idea to make all the TI threads visible once again. You can see for yourself where Bruce admits to firing working and replacing them with cheap trainees and much, much more. 

I&#039;d think it&#039;d be in everyone&#039;s best benefit to let these things drop and keep me and TW out of it, but if Bruce continues to do this and doesn&#039;t make a public apology, then I guess he thinks it&#039;s a good idea to let all the threads go back.....

Maybe teflwatch can have a new forum devoted solely to TEFL International discussions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of this started on TW. For those of you curious teflwatch.com is up and going with the forum. Since so much debate is now he said, she said, I think it might be a good idea to make all the TI threads visible once again. You can see for yourself where Bruce admits to firing working and replacing them with cheap trainees and much, much more. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d think it&#8217;d be in everyone&#8217;s best benefit to let these things drop and keep me and TW out of it, but if Bruce continues to do this and doesn&#8217;t make a public apology, then I guess he thinks it&#8217;s a good idea to let all the threads go back&#8230;..</p>
<p>Maybe teflwatch can have a new forum devoted solely to TEFL International discussions.</p>
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		<title>By: Teflista</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3754</link>
		<dc:creator>Teflista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Below is the response I received from a reference librarian at the University of Queensland:

From: AskALibrarian@oclc.org
Subject:  Library Question - Answer [Question #4001340]

Hello T


Thank you for contacting Ask a Librarian.

I could not find a dissertation for Matthew John Kay but there is one for a Matthew Howell Kay in 2001.

Author  Kay, Matthew Howell.
Title   Geostatistical integration of conventional and downhole geophysical data in the metalliferous mine environment / by Matthew Howell Kay.

If you need further information you can contact the UQ Graduate School http://www.uq.edu.au/grad-school/

Kind regards
Liz Reaves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Below is the response I received from a reference librarian at the University of Queensland:</p>
<p>From: AskALibrarian@oclc.org<br />
Subject:  Library Question &#8211; Answer [Question #4001340]</p>
<p>Hello T</p>
<p>Thank you for contacting Ask a Librarian.</p>
<p>I could not find a dissertation for Matthew John Kay but there is one for a Matthew Howell Kay in 2001.</p>
<p>Author  Kay, Matthew Howell.<br />
Title   Geostatistical integration of conventional and downhole geophysical data in the metalliferous mine environment / by Matthew Howell Kay.</p>
<p>If you need further information you can contact the UQ Graduate School http://www.uq.edu.au/grad-school/</p>
<p>Kind regards<br />
Liz Reaves</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Case</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3747</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone else bored with this whole Matt Kay discussion and want me to delete both sides of the argument?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else bored with this whole Matt Kay discussion and want me to delete both sides of the argument?</p>
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		<title>By: Teflista</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3746</link>
		<dc:creator>Teflista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug:

Here’s an earlier version of what you posted that was reported to the public for years. Due to heavy advertising, including on Ajarn, this is more than common knowledge:

Who are the CMU team? / 
TEFL Certificate Course Chiang Mai University - About Us

Dr. Matthew John Kay (Matt)
International Programs Director

Nationality: Australian
Email: mattkay@teflcmu.com
Education: BA (Hons) Philosophy, Ph.D, University of Queensland, Australia.
 
Brief Bio:
 
TEFL Certificate Program Director Dr. Matthew John Kay has been teaching academic English and thesis writing at the Language Institute since 2004. A special instructor in philosophy, he also lectures in European philosophy for the Department of Sociology&#039;s Ph.D program in sustainable development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug:</p>
<p>Here’s an earlier version of what you posted that was reported to the public for years. Due to heavy advertising, including on Ajarn, this is more than common knowledge:</p>
<p>Who are the CMU team? /<br />
TEFL Certificate Course Chiang Mai University &#8211; About Us</p>
<p>Dr. Matthew John Kay (Matt)<br />
International Programs Director</p>
<p>Nationality: Australian<br />
Email: mattkay@teflcmu.com<br />
Education: BA (Hons) Philosophy, Ph.D, University of Queensland, Australia.</p>
<p>Brief Bio:</p>
<p>TEFL Certificate Program Director Dr. Matthew John Kay has been teaching academic English and thesis writing at the Language Institute since 2004. A special instructor in philosophy, he also lectures in European philosophy for the Department of Sociology&#8217;s Ph.D program in sustainable development.</p>
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		<title>By: Teflista</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3727</link>
		<dc:creator>Teflista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great customer service, Bruce. Is that what you tell people who ask about the qualifications of your trainers and managers? Very professional. 

I still see no answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great customer service, Bruce. Is that what you tell people who ask about the qualifications of your trainers and managers? Very professional. </p>
<p>I still see no answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3726</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumbdumb, I issued the challenge.  Are you going to take it or not?  Its that simple.  Either PUT UP or... well, you know the rest.

I know a great deal about Matt Kay and his life.  A very interesting (and very successful) fellow.  He has done things that most of us would only dream of.  And I am not about to go publishing personal details about him on a blog.  

I have not visited the ajarn.com site in at least a month.  Probably 2 or 3.  But TEFLista knows all....  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumbdumb, I issued the challenge.  Are you going to take it or not?  Its that simple.  Either PUT UP or&#8230; well, you know the rest.</p>
<p>I know a great deal about Matt Kay and his life.  A very interesting (and very successful) fellow.  He has done things that most of us would only dream of.  And I am not about to go publishing personal details about him on a blog.  </p>
<p>I have not visited the ajarn.com site in at least a month.  Probably 2 or 3.  But TEFLista knows all&#8230;.  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Teflista</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3724</link>
		<dc:creator>Teflista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 14:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug:

I don&#039;t see the name of a university for that degree or a dissertation title in any of that. Anyone can say that they have one - especially in Thailand.  And if someone did email them, would they say yes? I&#039;ve met many people at universities in Thailand with degrees that they don&#039;t have and some are even quite open and honest about it, but I doubt that would be the case here. 

I think that it’s quite clear from Bruce’s post, that he doesn’t even know the qualifications of some of his own trainers that are right under his own nose and in his own back yard. Why does Bruce even need to call Dr Kay in the first place and why did he wait to do this now when the trainer’s qualifications were pointed out months ago (btw you can get a diploma in 8 weeks, so he may have picked one up during the interim – or not, but it’s quite clear that he was working with only a cert and in Part Two Bruce condoned such practices). Also, how many full-time lead trainers does TI have in Thailand? Maybe 3, with one working in Bruce’s own building and the other being Mike. What’s the matter? Bruce can’t count to 1? Or let me guess, he’s trying to pass the buck again and say that the paperwork is in Antarctica. 

Anyway, Thailand is full of fake degrees and every four months or so another article pops ups somewhere about them. The last one that happen to pass by my eyes was written by Ken May, the same person who wrote about Bruce in the Bangkok Post. May’s article appeared as a special supplement to the BKK Post, in a special university edition. Here’s part of what he had to say:
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Let’s admit it from the beginning. Fake degrees are common place in Thailand…

Education can be a very profitable business, so schools often play a compliant role in this deceit in hopes of gaining competitive advantage…

The demand for teachers is high…

I have spent four years teaching in Thailand with my authentic master’s degree. It surprises me, however, that I have never been requested to show authorities anything but a Xerox copy…

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The article had nothing to do with TI, but it contained several pictures of various fake diplomas. Ironically, one of them was a fake TEFL International Certificate issued to Vladimir Lenin!

Ajarn, a popular educational blog in Thailand (where Bruce also trawls for an hour a day), has a story about this too. There the author believes that 30% of teachers in Thailand are working with fake documents:

http://www.ajarn.com/Banter/degreedilemma.htm


Bruce:
Still waiting...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see the name of a university for that degree or a dissertation title in any of that. Anyone can say that they have one &#8211; especially in Thailand.  And if someone did email them, would they say yes? I&#8217;ve met many people at universities in Thailand with degrees that they don&#8217;t have and some are even quite open and honest about it, but I doubt that would be the case here. </p>
<p>I think that it’s quite clear from Bruce’s post, that he doesn’t even know the qualifications of some of his own trainers that are right under his own nose and in his own back yard. Why does Bruce even need to call Dr Kay in the first place and why did he wait to do this now when the trainer’s qualifications were pointed out months ago (btw you can get a diploma in 8 weeks, so he may have picked one up during the interim – or not, but it’s quite clear that he was working with only a cert and in Part Two Bruce condoned such practices). Also, how many full-time lead trainers does TI have in Thailand? Maybe 3, with one working in Bruce’s own building and the other being Mike. What’s the matter? Bruce can’t count to 1? Or let me guess, he’s trying to pass the buck again and say that the paperwork is in Antarctica. </p>
<p>Anyway, Thailand is full of fake degrees and every four months or so another article pops ups somewhere about them. The last one that happen to pass by my eyes was written by Ken May, the same person who wrote about Bruce in the Bangkok Post. May’s article appeared as a special supplement to the BKK Post, in a special university edition. Here’s part of what he had to say:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Let’s admit it from the beginning. Fake degrees are common place in Thailand…</p>
<p>Education can be a very profitable business, so schools often play a compliant role in this deceit in hopes of gaining competitive advantage…</p>
<p>The demand for teachers is high…</p>
<p>I have spent four years teaching in Thailand with my authentic master’s degree. It surprises me, however, that I have never been requested to show authorities anything but a Xerox copy…</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>The article had nothing to do with TI, but it contained several pictures of various fake diplomas. Ironically, one of them was a fake TEFL International Certificate issued to Vladimir Lenin!</p>
<p>Ajarn, a popular educational blog in Thailand (where Bruce also trawls for an hour a day), has a story about this too. There the author believes that 30% of teachers in Thailand are working with fake documents:</p>
<p>http://www.ajarn.com/Banter/degreedilemma.htm</p>
<p>Bruce:<br />
Still waiting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3722</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TEFLista, are you taking my proposition?

LOL

Oh the joys of being a smart alack know-it-all using an anonymous username on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TEFLista, are you taking my proposition?</p>
<p>LOL</p>
<p>Oh the joys of being a smart alack know-it-all using an anonymous username on the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas paxman</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3721</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas paxman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why doesn&#039;t TEFLISTA mail Dr Kay in person if he is so sure that the man is masquerading as something he ain&#039;t? 

ZOOMINFO lists the following
International Programs Director, Dr. Matthew John Kay has been teaching academic English and thesis writing at the Language Institute since 2004.A lecturer in the Department of Philosophy at CMU, he also teaches European philosophy in the Faculty of Social Sciences&#039; Ph.D. program.
http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/ReferencesView.aspx?PersonID=1181137657

So TEFLISTA?  What are your quals? You seem to profess a very in depth knowledge of this industry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn&#8217;t TEFLISTA mail Dr Kay in person if he is so sure that the man is masquerading as something he ain&#8217;t? </p>
<p>ZOOMINFO lists the following<br />
International Programs Director, Dr. Matthew John Kay has been teaching academic English and thesis writing at the Language Institute since 2004.A lecturer in the Department of Philosophy at CMU, he also teaches European philosophy in the Faculty of Social Sciences&#8217; Ph.D. program.<br />
http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/ReferencesView.aspx?PersonID=1181137657</p>
<p>So TEFLISTA?  What are your quals? You seem to profess a very in depth knowledge of this industry!</p>
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		<title>By: Teflista</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3719</link>
		<dc:creator>Teflista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce:

Could you please tell us about Dr. Kay&#039;s qualifications? Got the name of the university where he did his PhD and the title of his dissertation for us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce:</p>
<p>Could you please tell us about Dr. Kay&#8217;s qualifications? Got the name of the university where he did his PhD and the title of his dissertation for us?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3718</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy, you posted my comments only after I contacted you and long after you had originally posted some very inaccurate information.  While I do appreciate the fact that you allowed me to have my say (lesser men just figure it is their blog and eliminate all dissenting information) the fact that you posted it at all,and left it up for months, without first contacting me for a response does not exactly make you a champion if fairness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy, you posted my comments only after I contacted you and long after you had originally posted some very inaccurate information.  While I do appreciate the fact that you allowed me to have my say (lesser men just figure it is their blog and eliminate all dissenting information) the fact that you posted it at all,and left it up for months, without first contacting me for a response does not exactly make you a champion if fairness.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Case</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3717</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 07:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but nooooooo way I am stirring up that can of worms again. Try googling TEFL Watch or searching here for that or &quot;TEFL soap opera&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but nooooooo way I am stirring up that can of worms again. Try googling TEFL Watch or searching here for that or &#8220;TEFL soap opera&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Teflista</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3716</link>
		<dc:creator>Teflista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 04:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex:

Could you please provide a very brief summary of what the whole TW thing was about? There are probably many readers, myself included, who are not familiar with what happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex:</p>
<p>Could you please provide a very brief summary of what the whole TW thing was about? There are probably many readers, myself included, who are not familiar with what happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3708</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here you are, Bruce. Just to jog your memory, as you said that I had never even bothered to get in touch with you, when in fact I gave you a whole page to yourself some six months ago.


On Wed, 18/6/08, The Tefl Tradesman  wrote:
From: The Tefl Tradesman 
Subject: [The TEFL Tradesman] Bruce Veldhuisen Puts His Case
To: teflsandy@yahoo.ie
Date: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008, 12:22 PM

Bruce Veldhuisen, CEO at Tefl International, has been in touch with me several times recently. It would appear that he’s none too happy with some of the seedier accusations about him and his TEFL racket that have been surfacing on this blog.

Of course, I did point out to him that the ‘TEFL’ at the top of this blog stands for “Telling Enormous Fuggin’ Lies”, but he has not ceased his harassment of Sandy one bit. So, in order to square things up a little, and to fill a bit of empty space in the day, here is a selection of some of Bruce’s choicest words (all much too polite, by the way – you really should learn to show your anger, Brucie!)...


Dear Sandy,

[EDITED- so we don&#039;t have to debate the content]

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Posted By The Tefl Tradesman to The TEFL Tradesman at 6/18/2008 12:10:00 PM

REMEMBER NOW, BRUCE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here you are, Bruce. Just to jog your memory, as you said that I had never even bothered to get in touch with you, when in fact I gave you a whole page to yourself some six months ago.</p>
<p>On Wed, 18/6/08, The Tefl Tradesman  wrote:<br />
From: The Tefl Tradesman<br />
Subject: [The TEFL Tradesman] Bruce Veldhuisen Puts His Case<br />
To: teflsandy@yahoo.ie<br />
Date: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008, 12:22 PM</p>
<p>Bruce Veldhuisen, CEO at Tefl International, has been in touch with me several times recently. It would appear that he’s none too happy with some of the seedier accusations about him and his TEFL racket that have been surfacing on this blog.</p>
<p>Of course, I did point out to him that the ‘TEFL’ at the top of this blog stands for “Telling Enormous Fuggin’ Lies”, but he has not ceased his harassment of Sandy one bit. So, in order to square things up a little, and to fill a bit of empty space in the day, here is a selection of some of Bruce’s choicest words (all much too polite, by the way – you really should learn to show your anger, Brucie!)&#8230;</p>
<p>Dear Sandy,</p>
<p>[EDITED- so we don't have to debate the content]</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Posted By The Tefl Tradesman to The TEFL Tradesman at 6/18/2008 12:10:00 PM</p>
<p>REMEMBER NOW, BRUCE?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Case</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3705</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some serious pruning off comments above just completed, mainly of discussions that went nowhere, finished in a dead end or were unrelated to the original interview. Hopefully I have been even handed in deleting and editing almost everyone&#039;s comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some serious pruning off comments above just completed, mainly of discussions that went nowhere, finished in a dead end or were unrelated to the original interview. Hopefully I have been even handed in deleting and editing almost everyone&#8217;s comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3702</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually check discussion boards for about 3 hours per week.  In this instance I had to be told the discussion was going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually check discussion boards for about 3 hours per week.  In this instance I had to be told the discussion was going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Question</title>
		<link>http://www.tefl.net/alexcase/teach-abroad/bruce-veldhuisen-interview-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3701</link>
		<dc:creator>Question</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are the CEO of the biggest Tefl providers, how come you have so much time chatting on the internet?  Maybe you should talk to BC, improve your curriculum, or you do not have anything to improve???  How odd!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are the CEO of the biggest Tefl providers, how come you have so much time chatting on the internet?  Maybe you should talk to BC, improve your curriculum, or you do not have anything to improve???  How odd!!!</p>
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